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  1. Ben

    Although I certainly agree with you that the true Green rockstars are the likes of our grandparents, I also hate to talk poopoo about people who are making (or trying to make) a difference.

    Anytime you can get a celebrity onto a movement, it has the potential to be a very positive thing for that movement. First, these rock stars influence people. When one of these individuals steps off a jet to speak about green endeavors, they obviously are being a bit hypocritical by flying the jet, but they are potentially having a positive impact on thousands of individuals.

    Also, these folks do not need to take steps to preserve the environment. They do not need to use biodiesel busses, turn the lights off… etc. The fact that they do is positive and that they are telling other people is also positive.

    Ultimately, everyone can be greener. We, as bloggers, could be greener by telling people to not use their computers or not use our own computers. Although there are certainly inadequacies that can be pointed out of these rock stars, I think it is of great benefit to promote the positive environmental steps that these rock stars take.

  2. Michel D.

    Well… I am sorry but I found the arguments just ludicrous. Concerts are made for large audiences, Is not as if Alanis is spending alone all this energy. If you have divided the energy spent for the number of people having fun, then you'd certainly get to a reasonable number. If they werent there, each one would probably be spending energy doing something else, that could even surpass the energy and consumption of the show!

  3. Concerts are notorious for their energy and water use — not to mention the tons of waste they produce (and this could be any mass event, such as a football game).

    I respect your opinion, but this is why numerous groups are working on LEED certification for such events. Concerts are designed to encourage consumption, and you're not thinking of the thousands of aggregate road miles driven to even a modest gathering. Nor does anyone pulls their circuit breaker before leaving home.

    I'm certainly not saying we should stop having concerts, or that efforts to green them are unworthy. But the idea of using as an environmental spokesperson a celebrity whose carbon footprint and resource consumption is many multiples of the average person is plainly wrongheaded, and the irony doesn't escape notice.

    The environmental movement has matured to the point we no longer need to piggyback on the fame of rock stars and actors (though many are committed conservationists). People understand the need for change. We've arrived at the action phase, and it's time for the celebrities to take a bow and step offstage. From here out, it's up to us.

  4. Well, it certainly wasn't my intent to talk smack on Alanis — and I tried demonstrate my appreciation of her music and environmental convictions.

    Nor am I being nihilistic: Nobody is suggesting we stop having concerts or shut down our personal electronics. People will consume. That's neither avoidable, nor a bad thing. What we want is sustainable consumption.

    You're right — celebrities have influence. They get noticed. But it's not as if people haven't heard the environmental message, and we're past the stage where we need someone like Paris Hilton stumbling unconvincingly through a few scripted talking points about the virtues of buying a hybrid car.

    The kind of positive impact we need now is the real work of remaking our lives, not sound bytes from celebrities.

  5. theeverydayminimalist

    Those are all really good points, because it is the majority of actions (direct or indirect) that matter.

    Perhaps Alanis could tell her fans “please carpool or find green ways of coming”, rather than driving? Or offer bus pick ups of groups of people?

    If they're really her fans, they may comply. :)

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